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SYWTSPP 3 - What Books Should I Read To Start Limit HE?
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Sunday 19 March 2006 @ 22:53
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[ This is the third part in a continuing series called
So, You Want To Start Playing Poker?. The series is
designed to help new players learn some basics about starting
poker from the ground up.]
In a post about
what game structure to select, I recommended two possible games:
limit
HE
and NL HE. In this article,
I discuss what books and materials are best to read for beginning the
former.
Compared to NL HE, limit HE is much more of a technical game. Your
understanding of the mathematical odds, starting hand selection, and
technical details of play will determine much of your success at the
lowest limits of HE. You'll need lots of practice to understand the
concepts involved, but much of the hard information you'll need is
available in books.
Jones Is Your Best First Choice
The book that opens most players' eyes to poker “book learning” is Lee
Jones' Winning Low Limit Hold 'Em. It's the book I used
when I taught the poker course at the Cambridge Center for Adult
Education. I read it many times myself when starting limit. The
cover literally fell off of my copy of Lee Jones' first edition.
While his second edition covers some things about NL HE, it is
basically only for online “Sit and Go” tournaments.
Lee Jones does a very good job helping you understand starting hand
selection and the very basics of preflop odds, pot odds and implied
odds (and their limited use in limit HE). However, I believe his
starting hand selection suggestions are far too loose. If you follow
his starting hand recommendations exactly, you'll find yourself in a
number of complicated situations. Granted, you'll have position
(acting last — a central component of HE poker) when these
situations come up. But, there is really no reason for a new player
to make marginal choices. Avoid the goofier hands he suggests for
late position.
The other downside to Jones' book, one that I didn't discover until
much later, is that the material is carefully tuned for play in the
extremely loose limit HE games of California. California poker is
somewhat unique, because many people in the games are playing poker
not because of a direct interest in the game, but because it's the
only available legalized “gambling” there. Many
individuals who would be playing other games (say, craps) are playing
poker instead. This leads to many a poker hand played out more like a
craps roll. Jones' advice is designed for those types of games
— as if you are playing the house against people taking 8 the
hard way.
Those caveats aside, Lee Jones' book is probably the most important
book on limit HE on the market. I mention these downsides only to
make sure you don't treat it as a poker bible, the way many of us
did when we started with limit HE. It's a great book and you'll
learn a lot. However, try to move quickly to getting enough
knowledge and experience to see the places where Jones is giving
bad advice for those games you play and learn to adjust it to suit
your needs.
Krieger May Be Overrated
Many people recommend Lou Krieger's Hold'Em Excellence
series of books for beginners. I'm less enthusiastic about them
than most. I like Lou and think he writes well, but I think his
books fail to give enough step-by-step advice (i.e., “when you
have situation X, usually you should do Y”). New players
really need this type of advice as they get started. Lou focuses
more on general concepts for beginning to win. Of course, they are
good concepts, but I think you'll pick them up just as easily in
other books that also include step-by-step advice.
Lou is also the co-author of Poker for Dummies. Despite
the inappropriate titles (I don't think someone who lacks
knowledge and seeks it is ever a dummy), I'm actually a fan of
some of the dummy books. Their editors are usually good at
designing books to give good quick introductions. I read
Poker for Dummies early in my poker learning process.
I was less impressed with it than other dummy books, primarily
because it tried to cover all forms of poker in one volume, which
is really difficult for new players. Poker is just one of these
areas where you have to start a bit specialized. Trying to
generalize too early will only make it difficult for you to begin
booking wins early; this may decimate your confidence. Poker is
somewhat unique in that you can get benefit from specializing
early, but try not to stay one for too long.
Maybe Burton To Start?
I can't help but mention the book that got me started with limit HE. I
was going on a Foxwoods vacation with my in-laws, and had just
discovered that casino poker actually existed (more on that
sometime when I write a history of how I got into poker). I
literally ran (they were about to close) the night before to the
book store, after googling around about.com for more
information. I found a book written by about.com's casino
author, Bill Burton.
Reviews of his book, Get the Edge at Low-Limit Texas
Hold'em say that he teaches a “tight-weak”
strategy. However, if you want an overnight crash course so you
won't be a total fish at extremely low limits, this may be the
right book. It's written very simplistically with basic ideas
and simple-minded tactics. I found it got me up to speed so I
could hold my own without burning through too much bankroll as a
total HE newbie, playing the $2/$4 limit HE games at Foxwoods.
Tight-weak doesn't do too bad in these games, because no one
there makes any bluffs, and raises in multi-way pots nearly
always mean the nuts or close to it. Burton basically
recommends simple statistical play, gaining most of your edge
from starting hand selection and folding unless you flop
top-pair, strong kicker or better. This approach actually does
work in the loosest, highest rake, lowest limit games at the
casino. (Remember, BTW, that the rake is really heavy at the
lowest limits and you can sometimes be a favorite to a game but
an underdog to the rake.)
Be Selective With Books, Just Like With Starting Hands
There are so many poker books on the market now you could break your
first bankroll just buying the books. Try to get books you aren't
sure about from the library first (if you can — few libraries
carry a strong poker book selection), or borrow from a friend
(those in NYC are welcome to contact me if they'd like to borrow
some). Read through them first to see if they are worth owning
and rereading. Nearly every poker book (even Hellmuth's stinker
of a book, Play Poker Like the Pros, which I borrowed
from Boston Public Library) that I've seen is worth a quick
read, but few are worth owning. Poker books are expensive under
the theory that you can “win the cost of the book in one
session of applying its principles”. But, I'm not a fan of
this theory. Some poker books are more or less a scam by pros to
find some extra easy money; Hellmuth's is the best example. Make
sure you pick the good ones that many other players recommend. |
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Visit to the U Club Ends February
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Wednesday 1 March 2006 @ 23:23
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 The O Club and The I Club have been merged into a single new club in a
new location, which I'll be calling the U Club. This is my new favorite
spot to play for a number of reasons that will go in my review (yes, I'm
really going to write those reviews
RSN).
I visited on Tuesday night to play for a few hours after work. I arrived
and found a single full NL $1/$2 game, for which I added myself to the
list.
While I waited, I took a seat in the $10/$20 limit HE game run by the
T.E., the proprietor of the I Club. This was a tough game. I made
the sixth player in this short-handed, aggressive game. I knew nearly
all the players from previous visits to the I Club. T.E. himself was
playing, as was M.S., who is a pro-ish poker player who co-ran the O
Club and now helps run the U Club. I can beat M.S. when he's off his
game, and he tilts pretty easily, but there was no indication he was
there yet, as the game had just started.
I picked the seat that seemed to put the most aggressive players on my
right, although, as it turned out, I still ended up with a very
aggressive player in my left. I didn't really want to be in this
game. But, I didn't want to wait to play. Also, I don't want T.E. to
feel he can't draw people into the game at this new club, as this
$10/$20 game can get really good. Thus, I don't want
this game to stop running for lack of interest. I'm of course not
going to stay in a bad game for a long time, but giving it time to
keep it going while waiting for another seat seems like a reasonable
long-term investment.
I quickly lost $200 by trying to muscle the aggressive players a bit,
which was probably a general mistake. I work much better in
short-handed limit games like those online, where there are
hyper-aggressive people who take flops a bit too easily. Instead, I
was surrounded by mostly tight-aggressive players who knew tons about
the game.
I picked up my best starting hand in my half hour in this game when I
caught K T in the cut-off. The tight player to
my right raised, but I had noticed he'd been attacking the blinds
pretty hard. I felt that he didn't necessarily have a hand that beat
mine.
Calling would have been foolish; I had to clear the field and decided
to three-bet. I was mortified when M.S. called cold from the
SB,
and was sure I was beat in at least once place. I felt better when that
tight player just called. At this point, I had him on probable medium
pair or a reasonable ace-high. If he had me dominated, it was by KQ
specifically, I thought. But, meanwhile M.S. was the big concern.
The flop came Q-high with two spades. The two checked to me, I bet, M.S. called and the tight player raised. I obviously needed to catch to win, so I just called. M.S. tossed his hand quickly,
and I was hoping that maybe we had cleared a K from the field and given
myself two additional outs. The turn hit
the draw with the A .
The tight player bet and I just called, which I realized was a silly
move. I doubted after calling that he'd bet the river, because if he
had only a pair, he would be too afraid of the board. OTOH, I suppose
raising right away might get a fold from a Q, whereas that Q might
check-call the river if I only called the turn. Regardless, I was
unhappy with my mere call as the river came.
I was surprised when he bet again. I raised and got paid off. He
mucked what he said was two pair, and was a bit unhappy that I played
KTs in that spot, but I am still pretty happy with the play from start
to finish, save the mere call on the turn.
A few minutes later, I surprisingly discovered that this player was none
other than brettbrettbrett! A few minutes later, Dan from the old I
Club and River Street showed up. He reminded brettbrettbrett of a goofy hand where I bluff-raised Dan on
the river after misreading the board on the flop and getting in deep
with no way to win. brettbrettbrett decided that given
that loose play, he surely should have three-bet with two pair in our
spot just a few minutes earlier. Too bad Dan hadn't shown up a few
minutes earlier to give brettbrettbrett that
advice. :)
With Dan joining the game, it was getting even worse. I was walking
away down just $2, and I was glad to see that enough people had shown
up to get a second $1/$2 NL game going.
I was also glad to see the new game included a number of regulars from
the old O club. Mostly, they were tight-weak players who overplay one
pair. At the other end of table, were two players — a woman and
a man — who had showed up together, and seemed like they must
have been O regulars, but probably from the late period just before
the bust since I'd never seen them before. I never caught the
fellow's name, but heard the woman, K.A., tell many people her
name.
Indeed, it was hard not to hear her. She gave a running commentary of
every hand to her friend, cagily trying to cover her mouth as she
spoke. This is the moment where I really love the Bose headphones.
So many people think I can't possibly hear that well with them on,
when, in fact, it is the best way to hear people whispering across the
table because they filter out the noise in-between.
Not, however, that there was anything that interesting being said. Her
analysis was obvious and lacked insight. She also got amazingly
frustrated by the most minor of things. It was as if someone acting
out of turn was a personal affront to her sensibilities. She started
to get on my nerves.
As my annoyance rose, it brought something about my own play to my
attention. From time to time, I used to be a player who wasn't all
that different from K.A. Surely I have “been her” at the
table more often in the past than I would like to remember. I
realized that her ego and self-importance about how poker worked was
part of my edge in the game. I'd been there before; I'd made that
selfish mistake of thinking the game was there for me, and now I could
see her doing the same thing. I had the same edge against her in the
game that others used to have against me.
I unfortunately didn't gain a moment against her to use to my
advantage, but her money moved around the table enough as she played
too obvious of a game, failed to bet out with top pair and bemoaned
that those who had called her preflop raise with junk had hit a
higher pair on the turn. Generally, she played in that “tight
but uninformed” style that I've come from prefer in players.
It's amazing to see people who learn enough about the game to not be
total fish then just stagnate. People just don't seem to realize that
anything worth doing requires a lifelong endeavor of learning to keep
pace.
Indeed, the game reminded me about the need for constant vigilance in
poker. I made an horrendous call with the nut straight on a
runner-runner flush board that was checked around on the flop. I
rivered the straight after calling a small bet on the turn, and then
made the classic widow poker mistake of not being cognizant that
shared cards mean a card that helps you can often help your opponent
more. And, after all, straight vs. flush is the easiest of all
examples of this concept.
That $82 lost, and being $250 down by then, I looked at my clock and
decided I'd leave that game even or better. Now, it's not usually
good to set goals that confined in a time frame, since there's often
not enough time to recover. But, I felt at that moment if I put some
pressure on myself to truly play a better game than all of my
opponents, I'd succeed.
I fortunately didn't disappoint myself. I trapped a hyper-aggressive
chronic bust-and-rebuy player for his whole stack when we both turned
a flush and mine was the nut-flush. (I'll put more about that hand in
a post this weekend.) Once I got that stack, I had to tighten up and
avoid drawing hands as two reasonable but beatable players were on my
left with bigger stacks. I hoped to trap them and double through
in a big way, but instead I picked up a pretty good pot by out-kicking
a JT with AT against a passive player on my right. I was $100 up as
the hour of my departure rolled around.
Sometimes, it's worth looking at a weak game and setting a goal for the
night for yourself.
(I
took obligatory stack shots.) |
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Good Hand?
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Saturday 11 February 2006 @ 20:00
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 I heard this quote from one of two friends, sitting in a $4/$8 limit HE
game at Foxwoods, who had got involved heads-up pot. Poker players
have a strange tendency to state the obvious, as if it makes a
profound statement about life, the universe and everything. Usually,
it's a simple fact that anyone just learning the game knows. As the
one friend had just reraised the other on turn after a cap on the
flop, the other friend said:
I know you have a good hand. It's just that I don't know how good.
To the tables' credit, nearly everyone burst out laughing. One fellow
nearby them responded: I think you've just made the fundamental
point of poker .
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Positively River Street, Part 1
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Thursday 9 February 2006 @ 23:58
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 I began promising an ode to River Street that I started writing just
after I arrived in New York City. I've been thinking a lot about
River Street (which I historically called "Greg's Game" in this
journal) since I got to NYC. Sure, there were always the NYC clubs,
which have begun to disappear (for a while). These are much more
profitable than my almost-break-even year (or so) at River Street.
However, Greg succeeded where so many others have failed: he was able
to mix a home game feel with what was (or, effectively became) a poker
club, and it lasted longer than any NYC club I've seen. While a few
of the clubs here in NYC have tried to give a home game feel, they
didn't succeed, at least not in the way Greg did it in Boston.
Ironically, I used to give Greg a hard time in mid-2004 that his game
was not really a home game anymore — which it wasn't — and
I really lamented that at that time. But, I was mistaken to be
bothered by it. It couldn't have survived much longer as a home game
(after all, Greg was clearly getting sick of hosting it in a
non-profit fashion), so the choices really were "death or club". I
believe the transition was successful, even if the dealers scared the
hell out of players with that high frequency of errors. (Having said
that, I should (a) point out that Shannan was among the best dealers I'd
ever seen, and (b) note that's basically the only real compliant, with
a full year of retrospect, that I have about River Street.)
The year of River Street was an important time for me in my poker life.
I have decided that I don't want that time to fade into jumbled memory
too easily, and while there are still some fresh thoughts of it in my
mind, I want to start journaling about them.
I picked this post for today as it is an historic date. My first visit
to River Street was Tuesday 10 February 2004 (which, I believe, was
the third or fourth time it ran as a "public" game). Tomorrow marks
the two year anniversary of my first visit to what I still consider
the "best" poker game I've ever played in.
By best, I certainly don't mean it was the most profitable. While it
may have been the game that helped me learn more than I could have
elsewhere, it wasn't that alone that made it great for me. It became,
because of the great mix of personalities of players, most like the
poker game that I once played in college. In those games (that
someday I'll write about, too), the game was a true social event. We
were a group of people who met frequently to study each other's
psychological make-up through poker.
For the next year, through a series of posts, I'll trace the history of
River Street as I remember it. I am sure some of the details have
faded, and I'll get some wrong. I know there are a few River Street
alumni lurking out there who might help with this diachronic look at
that game we all loved.
( My first installment, the story of the first River Street game I attended, is behind this link. )
I'll try to post, over the next year, stories of River Street to match
events on the 2004-2005 calendar to coincide with the same dates in
2006-2007. I obviously don't have specific incident and date memories
nor email records that match the whole year, but I'll try to keep the
general time frames right over the year. I hope you all enjoy this
series, and I hope a few members of the River Street crowd resurface
to chime in, and even correct me when I misremember. |
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The Rest of the Foxwoods Trip
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Tuesday 24 January 2006 @ 23:18
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 After my phone post from Foxwoods, nick_marden joined me
for a day to enjoy the Foxwoods local aquatic life-forms. We played
the $2/$5 blind
NL HE
with a $500 maximum buy-in. I have railed against this game in the past,
because they used to have a silly rebuy rule, wherein you couldn't top
off your stack until you were below $150(!).
This silly rule has been eradicated, or, at least, it wasn't being
enforced in the five hours I sat in the game. I topped off back to
$500 about four times, until I was able to build a stack well above
it.
The key hand that built the stack was against a bizarre
maniac/calling-station hybrid. He turned out to be relatively easy to
read, as he had a Caro-classic stare-down tendency when bluffing. He
came over the top of me a number of times when I myself lacked a hand
strong enough to call with, but finally I decided to make a stand with
87o on a 7-3-2-5 board. He bet all-in at me on the turn, and it was
clear he had no pair, after I had already built a strong feeling on
from his flop check-call that he had merely overcards. I got worried
when the J fell. He was ready to muck, and I felt a bit better;
I said "I called you" and waited to see his ATo before showing my
cards.
When I made the call (a call of a $200 or so overbet into a $180 pot),
it didn't seem that big of a deal, but jaws dropped a bit around the
table. nick_marden told me later that he wasn't
surprised I called, just that I had done so quickly, pointing out that
4-6 or A-4 was just the kind of hand and just the kind of draw that
this fellow had been playing, and I should have considered it longer.
Yet, all the pieces -- (a) betting out instead of slow-playing on the
turn, (b) the classic Caro tells, (c) the way he called on the flop
that seemed to scream "pair draw two times" -- just added up to a
clear call for me. As it was happening, it actually seemed rather
textbook to me, so that means either I'm over-confident or getting
pretty good at this game of NL HE.
Limit HE, however, is a bit of another story. I'm getting convinced
that the variance in limit HE is actually more than NL. The problem
is you can read people right and they can still get very lucky for
single bets and cost you huge pots. I played a lot of $10/$20 at
Foxwoods, and was up only for a brief time. The games were beautiful:
4 or 5 people taking each flop, usually going three-handed to the
river. But, that's a spot for lots of variance, and I suffered quite
a bit.
I just can't give up limit poker though; it feels so less stressful and
relaxing. And, it's not to say NL/PL doesn't have its variance as
well. More on that soon. |
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In the Room at the Two Trees
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Friday 13 January 2006 @ 11:46
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  | VoicePost  569K 3:17
| “Hello! I am at Foxwoods, without Internet access. All the rooms in the [Grand] Pequot, which is the main hotel at Foxwoods, were taken (at least at the discount rate). So, I'm in the Two Trees Hotel, which unfortunately has no Internet access.
I took a brief 36-hour vacation from work. I have a conference to help organize and have function[ing] this Monday and Tuesday; I'm working all weekend. So, I took a day and a half to spend some time here, since the conference is in Boston, halfway (effectively) between New York and Boston. I played exclusively limit HE last night. I enjoy coming to Foxwoods because it is so focused on limit play, compared to everywhere else. That's not to say there aren't a "bazillion" $1/$2 NL, $140 buy-in NL tables across the poker room floor. But, limit HE and limit Stud are the staple at the poker room at Foxwoods, and I'm much more comfortable in that.
You know, every time Foxwoods comes up in any poker conversation, people always say how terrible it is. I don't know if it is because it's the first place that I ever played, in-person "public" poker or not, but my comfort level in and enjoyment level at the Foxwoods poker room is very high. I think that's unlikely to ever change.
I unfortunately did not end with a positive session, I was down $90 which is not all that much in $10/$20 limit. Reaching a point of being up about $250 at sometime during the 8 hour session. It was a typical loose-passive limit game. In fact, I stayed up much later than I intended to because it was turning into what looks much like the $4/$8 games at Foxwoods and, for that, I was willing to stay up very late, but unfortunately wasn't able to make any money in that game. I had to, of course, wait for cards, it is limit HE after all.
I watched the NL $5/$5 no max buy-in game for a while. The largest stack was only about $1,200 which is actually rather small for that game. It's typical to find people sitting on $2,000 [or] 3,000 playing that game.
I thought a little bit about playing it, only because it's a game that has always intimidate me, and it just didn't seem that big, at least it's not playing that big these couple of days. So, I might sit in that today. I'm also thinking about sitting in $5/$10 stud for a while just to work on my stud game. My goal still being to have some versatile level of play in multiple types of poker games.
I hope to make an actual text post sometime on Saturday, if I have the opportunity.” Transcribed by: shipitfish |
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Limit Game in NYC
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Sunday 8 January 2006 @ 00:07
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Thursday night, I went to a limit-only club in NYC. It was a surprise to
discover it existed, because there is so much focus on NL right now. I
was glad to hear about the club, and I'll write a more involved review
eventually, if/when I start posting actual club reviews.
The first, foremost and constant thing on my mind during the entire
game, which I stayed with from button-high-card until it
broke, was that how much more social and friendly limit games are.
People are there for such different reasons than NL. Limit poker
seems like a cocktail party where everyone is trying a bit too hard to
impress each other. NL poker seems like a organized debate where
everyone has taken clear stands on the issue and is shouting as loud
as they can to win.
I was a bit nervous about the game, because as a 10/20 HE game with a
half-kill, it killed to one higher limit than I usually play. But, I
decided it was a good chance to work on my live limit game -- having
been out of practice since Boston when I could visit Foxwoods
regularly.
It was interesting to meet Matt and Steph, a husband and wife, who had
gotten a baby-sitter to play in this game. It was a strange thing to
imagine -- that such a thing was a night out for a couple. I suppose
it was so strange for me because poker is not something my wife would
ever do. Matt mentioned how tough it was ("How many times do you
think we've heard, 'someone's sleeping on the couch', after a bad
beat?", he said), and perhaps I joked more about colluding with them
than I should have. But, the whole situation somewhat intrigued
me.
Matt and Steph were relatively strong players, although they played a
little looser preflop (particularly calling raises cold) than I do in
limit. A few of the other players were extremely tight-aggressive and
tough to beat. But, there were a number of people making some serious
mistakes, and the game was certainly beatable; I at least wasn't a
fish.
It felt, however, strangely constricting to play live limit HE again.
I don't mind it online, but there I have focused lately on
short-handed play. Playing a full table of limit reminded me of the
old adages I'd built in my years of low-limit at Foxwoods: "A bit bet
is a precious thing", and "One pair is nearly always beat when raised
on the turn in a multiway pot", etc. It felt a bit formulaic, and I
focused on what I feel is the real challenge in full-table limit:
finding every last value bet you can.
When I payed off an obvious KK/AA (it was KK, as it turned out) with JJ
as an overpair, I realized that I was unfortunately playing the
classic "NL player in a limit game" trap, by paying off on the turn
and river because it's "just one more bet" each time. A big bet is so
precious in limit, so I started making laydowns and only made one more
mistake like that over the night.
One of the highlights of this jovial and friendly table was the arrival
of Dan, whom I immediately recognized from River Street back in
Boston. I don't think he remembered me, and in fact, we realized
later that our River Street overlap was a different time than I had
thought (I though I had remembered him as an player from the early
days, but he actually was from the late days in the Boston location).
It was good to connect back to the old game, and to talk of Little
John's craziness and other unique things that make miss the Boston
poker world of those days.
I actually watched Dan play a hand that made me think about how much of
what I've said about
AK in NL can also
apply to limit, too. I saw Dan four-bet from the
SB
after four people had entered the pot. "Google Guy" (a young recent
college graduate who worked for Google) bad-beat him (sort of) with
A6o, and Dan bemoaned his fate. I actually think throwing away AK in
that spot makes some sense. Certainly capping is better than calling
three bets cold, but I wonder if there is any real need to play the
hand in that spot when you have to take the flop out of position with
some the aces obviously already dead, and probably a big pair out, too. Dan
was "forced" to bet out on the 8 high flop, and got into a betting war
when Google Guy made a second pair when the turn fell an A.
The bad side of limit showed itself too: the young whiner "pro" who
can't handle the game in any real way. Ours showed up and immediately
got QQ "cracked". He didn't stop whining until he finally left an
hour later, after ripping two cards (an AK that missed) and spitting on two
more (KK when an Ace flopped). I would have preferred if the club
owner had thrown him out after the ripping incident. However, I think the
club owner thought he could "control this kid" and needed the players
anyway.
Around 02:00, the game got short-handed, and I actually began to shine
a bit. It helped that I got the best group of starting hands for the
night and connected with some flops, but I felt so much more
comfortable and able to control the game in short-handed mode. That's
not to say I couldn't still commune with the full table game and
patiently play correctly in it, but I wonder sometimes if I could sit
in those full-table limit games day-in and day-out and stay
interested. There's just so much more fun stuff going on in NL and
short handed limit. I hate myself a bit for saying that after
scoffing back so often at those NL-only players who had scoffed at
limit HE.
But, the social side of the whole thing was not to be ignored. I felt
like I was in a real social situation with (mostly) friendly and good
people. That's something I haven't felt since River Street, and I
liked it. Most of NYC poker is a shouting "debate" of NL
confrontations that require every controlled bit of psychological
power to play correctly. A little less of that is mandatory in
full-table limit, it seems.
Strangely, I was even willing to talk a bit about this journal. The
interest was mixed; the Google Guy was the first one to say: "Who
would ever want to read a poker blog?", and a few of the
tight-aggressive sharks said: "do you have a big readership and make
some money from it?" Matt seemed interested enough that I gave him
the URL. But, the fact that I picked that night for
the first time to mention the blog in a NYC poker situation indicates
that it was friendly place. |
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A Small Limit Tournament in NYC
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 Last night, I played a small limit tournament at a local NYC club.
This small club was seeking to generate additional interest (they are
a small three-table club) by filling the niche of limit games; there
are few in the city. Most players seems to want only NL, thanks to
television, I presume.
( I have written a rather rambling description of that
tournament, as it was a fun time and surprisingly exciting for me
despite the low stakes. )
I'm going to another tournament tonight. In an effort to get an O/8 games going, a
sister club is running a $50 O/8 tourney tonight. I doubt I'll have
enough luck to place two nights in a row, but it's worth a try. |
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I Love Bad Beats, and You Should, Too!
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 Like every poker player, I've spent my share of time frustrated with
bad beats. The definition of "bad beat", of course, varies from
player to player. I've heard many people say crazy things like having
AQ in HE and ending up against AK as a "bad beat", because "how was I
supposed to know I was dominated?". That's not what a bad beat really
is, of course. When I use the term "bad beat" at all, which I really
don't use much anymore, I'd usually say that someone has to have seven
outs or less in HE for it to really be that "bad" of a beat.
But, I just don't think of them as "bad beats" anymore. Given that one has
to lose in poker -- and you can't play any game with an element of
chance and not lose some of the time -- I'd rather it be in a
so-called "bad beat" situation than any other.
There are basically two scenarios where you lose a non-trivial amount
of money in poker: either you make a serious mistake, or someone else
does but gets lucky anyway. The former can take two forms: (a) you
think you have the best hand and/or you think your opponent is too
weak to call, and you turn out to be mistaken, or (b) your opponent is
deceptive enough to convince you to put money in when you have the
worst of it. This is not how I want things to go. I don't want to be
outplayed, and I don't want to be tricked into giving money to players
who are better than me.
Given the two options -- giving money to strong players or weak players
-- it's much better to give money to players who make mistakes. If
someone takes your money and they are better than you, you have little
chance to win it back. Only pure luck will get you money from a stronger
player. If you opponent is a bad player, you can realistically visualize
that he is merely holding your chips for a while, until you get him in
another situation where the odds are against him but he fails to get
lucky.
If you've accepted that you can't win every pot you play, it's easy to
see a path of gaining a peace with "bad beats" if you frame the
situation in that way. That's the first step, and it's one that I
have at long-last achieved. I love games where the bad beats fly and
I ship chips around to weak players. The tough spot I still see is
when the fellow takes a big piece of your stack, and then gets up to
leave. Yeah, I admit that "hit and run" is one part of the "bad beat"
phenomenon that still can get past my new frustration-proof wall.
But, I'm starting to overcome that part, too. The way I'm doing it is
a viewing it as the advertising budget of my bankroll.
That's a strange choice of words, especially since most people think of
"advertising budgets" in poker as "money for bluffs that get called".
I'm not much for that, because I think it's usually wasted; I want all
my bluffs to succeed. In most games, people pay off enough that you
don't need to be caught bluffing -- not even once -- to induce
adequate action.
But the guy who hits a few three-outers and walks away a winner --
that's money well spent. While we see a large turnover of opponents
in most games, some people do come back. But, if they are to come
back, players who are steady losers have to win some of the
time. Why else would they return? It's pure Skinnerist psychology --
intermittent rewards are the most likely way to keep someone willing
to introduce themselves to situations that are overall bad for their
bankrolls.
Also, what's that guy going to say to his friends? He's going to say:
"games at that casino/club/site are easy". He'll entice others to
play at the same place. Word gets around. After all, why do we have
so much money flowing into the poker economy right now? Because lots
of people have heard it's easy to win at poker, and have found it's
fun. Most of them won't win over the long term, but as long as they
win sometimes, they'll keep coming back.
For these reasons, I urge everyone to love "bad beats": no matter when
they come, and no matter when someone leaves. It's part of the
economy that we all rely on, and we don't want to discourage it. Be
careful to play at limits where the bad beats are for amounts of money
you can tolerate without frustration, and love it when it happens.
I can't finish a treatise on "bad beats" without addressing the
constant arguments I hear about whether or not one takes fewer bad
beats in NL HE vs. limit HE. This is a downright silly argument. If
you are in a loose game -- which are almost always profitable for a
solid player -- you should be seeing lots of "bad beats". In NL HE,
these bad beats should, in fact, be for your whole stack! The whole
reason NL HE can be so profitable is because you can get people to bet
their whole stack when they have only a few outs. It's rare that
you'll find a player so bad, or a situation so special, that he'll
hand you his whole stack drawing dead. NL HE isn't a better game
because you can "protect your hand" and "get people to fold". The
whole idea of "protecting your hand" in NL HE is about winning small
pots, which you certainly do need for long term profitability. But
the real wins come when you get all of your chips in with the best of
it, and when you do, you want to get called by someone with only a few
outs.
So, my advice to all of you who are frustrated with "bad beats":
Make peace with them. When I finally did, my entire outlook
on poker has changed and it has made me a more profitable player. I
still have challenges ahead; namely, getting fully comfortable with
the bad-beat-giver leaving the game before I want him to, and my
thoughts expressed above are helping me along that road. Get used to
allowing some of your bankroll to be spread around the table, as long
as it is in the stacks of players who make lots of mistakes.
The beats that should frustrate and anger you are those where
you have made mistakes, or have been outplayed. That frustration is
healthy and can be constructively channeled into improving your game.
There is, however, no constructive outcome of "bad beat" frustration.
It can only serve to make you hate the game you actually love, or to
make you imitate that losing Skinnerist play. I know that pain and
frustration when the tenth two-outer hits the table and you've lost
three buy-ins already. Let it go. Drop down limits so that it
doesn't hurt as much, if that's what it takes. Learn to love the bad
beats; it's where you profit comes from. |
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